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B.D.: “Well, I appreciate that. So, you know, no one wants to hear about me, I get it, yet I do have a bit of an origin story and I think it takes that to really get it because I did not set out to be in environmental mitigation by any stretch. My son and I moved from Honolulu, Hawaii to Missoula, Montana and about a week into our new home, he and I are sitting on the deck and we look up and we notice like, in harmony, that the biggest power lines in our entire city, I’m not speaking hyperbole, truly, the largest power lines in our whole city went right through our backyard almost over our house. And we had a laugh because we’re both male, we’re both hyper-visual, how we went through the process of buying a home and moving into it and miss these lines? To this day, he and I have a chuckle at how we missed them.”

 

Michelle: “I can relate to that! So I’ll tell you my story too but I’ll let you finish yours.”

 

B.D.: “So, we also joked that where directly under them we wouldn’t have to mow, right? Because the grass was dead all the way up and yellow on the edge. Well, my little boy had not missed a day in two years, had never gotten any other grade other than an A, and I don’t say that because I’m a great dad, I’m not claiming any of that, that’s all on him, he gets that, that’s just how this little guy navigated the world. Well that continued for about a year in our new home and after that he had started to slip a little bit, he was a little sicklier, he was a little more anxious, the teachers and counselors at school were lovely, they said hey your little guy is really loved by all the groups, he was awarded student of the month because he was holding, by his own volition, holding every door for the special needs kids, he’s a really neat little guy, but you’ve probably noticed that he’s not quite himself, his homework is not always done, is everything okay at home? And I said, you know, we’ve been through some losses and every family has their ups and downs, but for the most part yeah everything is fine. And one of the things that was suggested was potentially Big Pharma, and I knew for me that the very last thing that I was going to do as a parent, as a single parent especially, would be putting my child on drugs. We’re not going to drug my eight-year-old, right? So after some deducing of what his symptoms were and talking to friends and family and counselors and hitting the old Google, it turns out that my son had a severe form of EHS, Electrohypersensitivity Syndrome. And the power lines over our house were miserable to him and you can’t see it, you can’t smell it, you can’t touch it, so it was really hard to deduce. I will say for my own part when you would stand directly under the lines, I mean these are serious power lines, the hair stands up a little bit and you can hear the buzzing, right? But I would call it uncomfortable, I don’t want to be disingenuous, I wouldn’t call it uncomfortable but you can sense them. But when I step out from under them I can’t hear them, but Michelle, to him it was debilitating, it was ringing in his ears, it was tinnitus, his skin was suddenly sensitive and stiff, I was accidently driving my little kid crazy, and I didn’t know what it was, right? So my brother and I, after deducing this, you know, we did some do-it-yourself, we climbed in the attic and we spread out a NASA blanket from eve to eve, gable to gable, we grounded it, and instantly it quieted the house for him. It didn’t cure his EHS but it quieted the home for him. And that began a journey for me that I never saw coming that landed me in the conspiracy theory realm, that landed me in the tinfoil hat realm, and shaped our lives, it changed our lives forever. Because, you know, necessity is the mother of invention, and that, Michelle, is how I ended up in the industry.”

 

Michelle: “Oh my gosh, that is a fascinating and all too familiar story. How people go through something personal and they go to great lengths to find comfort and solutions and create, you know, a better life for themselves. You know, I know from first hand that works with tons of people and they will go to every length to feel better, and good for you for taking care of your child and to harmonize your home and create a greater awareness for this, and now having a company helping protect and harmonize their homes too, yeah, it’s not conspiracy theory at all, the meters don’t lie, the people don’t lie, I can’t tell you how many homes I’ve walked in to, it’s not the chaos of kids running around, it’s very unsettling. A lot of people are sensitive, like myself, and that’s not a bad thing, you know? It’s good to be sensitive, it’s good to be able to pick up on these things as a mother, as a wife, as a friend, as a daughter, whoever, to help figure out and filter these things out for ourselves. But same deal, I bought a house sight unseen, my husband went there, and it was in a safe enough area but a radio tower was literally, like, you couldn’t see it but it was on the hill behind us, and after discovering and finding these things out we only lived there for a couple of years but, you know, when people got closer or the houses that got closer to those tower, there was definitely clusters of cancer out there and finding out about it. I adhere to the cautionary principle, you know, I am like if we could just adhere to that and say let’s be protective and not wait and see, that would be a great way to live your life, that’s how I’ve always lived my life too. So, thank you for sharing your story, I really appreciate that. So with that, what is your definition of dirty electricity? Because, I mean, there’s power lines, electrical and magnetic, right? And then there’s radio frequencies, and then there’s dirty electricity that comes from a lot of that, so can you kind of break it down to a nice easy to understand form?”

 

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the mainstream science because the reality that e-pollution, EMFs, dirty electricity are bad for you, I’m sorry but they’re beyond intelligible debate, beyond intelligent contestation. How bad for you? Boy, we could sure have a discussion about that! There not as immediately harmful as stepping into a propeller, right? That’s really immediately harmful, but are they as harmful or more so than constantly eating fast foods, too much alcohol cigarettes, you pick! I would argue more so. And as you were saying with the tower, you couldn’t see the tower, it’s moved there and now you’re suffering some kind of disease. So with that on it, dirty electricity, answering your question, has quite a few definitions, I suppose it sometimes depends on who you ask, and if you ask two people and you get a different answer it doesn’t necessarily mean that one is right and one is wrong, or one’s being truthful or untruthful because alternating current is what we use, Nikoli Tesla, god love him, has some attributes, it has volts, amps, watts, harmonics, interference, distortion, electromagnetic fields, power factor, primary frequency, Ohm’s Law of Resistance, etc. So there are a few things, Michelle, that could be out of harmony, that could be out of a standard, that could be considered dirty electricity. I think for our conversation what we’re really talking about is the aspects of dirty electricity that might be damaging to the equipment or the biological, right? The biological world. And that creates that electromagnetic field and that electromagnetic field has subsequent radiation, it’s well documented! Now you and I know that if we’re going to talk about something that’s bad for people because of the FDA we have to be very careful about what we say, yet it’s most well documented, and I would argue on dairy cows, greenhouses and grows. Dairy cows are so sensitive, like I didn’t know this as a little boy, no dairy cow has ever been bitten by an electric fence. That’s not how they work at all. That dairy cow will not even step in a puddle within six feet of an electric fence. They don’t like it, they don’t go anywhere near it, that’s how it works! Because these creatures that we might call simple can feel it and don’t go near it, and I’ve seen pictures in greenhouses and indoor grows like in Canada where you can see the strawberries, the plants, the avocados growing towards the water, towards the light, towards the nutrition and away from the dirty electricity. I read a brilliant article by a botanist in Vancouver that said one of the first things you want to do if you want big, juicy, healthy strawberries is have clean electricity.”

 

Michelle: “Nice! I would love to be able to reference that on our podcast!”

 

B.D.: “I will send it to you once we’re done because it’s brilliantly written, and it would be hard to intelligently argue it. So with that being said, I know I’m not a strawberry, I know I’m not a dairy cow, but I am biological! Right?! I am in family and kin in some ways with the whole natural world. And our natural world is under attack! Bees, trees, me’s! So there’s a place here in Western Montana that I love to go, Salmon Lake, it’s about an hour and a half drive, and I’ve been going there my whole adult life. 25-30 years I’ve been going there and there’s a couple places I would stop on the way to scrape the bugs off of my windshield, there were so many bugs coming up because I’m going up in the summer time to enjoy the lake and I’ve got to stop and clean the bugs off at least once coming or going, each way I had to stop at least once! I can go three times now, Michelle, and never ever get the bugs off of my windshield.”

 

Michelle: “Yeah! And we noticed that because my husband and I have a motorcycle and we would go and take trips, we went up to Vancouver, Canada from here in Portland and we would go travelling and rent motorcycles and go throughout and we noticed that in the more metro areas there’s no bugs, even on our windshield, and even when we take road trips in our cars, like, and I remember when we went to Glacier for our honeymoon and a lot of bugs, a lot of bugs in more of the rural areas and things like that too, but it has decreased over the years. Facts.”

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are solutions even if they are, you know, electrically sensitive or if they have concerns about this, I mean, we have to do what’s right for people, place and planet, right, and to support those three elements at the same time for sure.”

 

B.D.: “Absolutely! And you can do so without dealing or trading in fear, you can do so without getting paralyzed in fear. Once you’ve got some education, that’s how you take your power back, Knowing where it comes from, we’re not dealing in fear, we’re empowering people to know where’s it coming from. Where are my culprits? And then, ideally, you turn them off or you don’t live next to them or use them sparingly. It’s like, I have Wi-Fi, I have iPhones, I have two iPhones, I can’t move to Oregon and compost my hair! I’m a tech! I’m a solar nerd! I’m a power systems engineer, this is the world I live in! But I do it thoughtfully. So, you know, do I have Wi-Fi at the house? Well, we do have Wi-Fi at the house but we don’t leave it on, we turn it on, we hardwired the things we can, we update our phones, we download Shrek, we have a normal life, I’m a normal dad, right? Once our apps are up to date you turn it off! You don’t sleep in it! So here’s a meter right here, a very famous meter, TriField meter from AlphaLabs, these guys are in Utah, it’s American-made, I don’t make it, I’m pitching it because I love it, I’m pitching it because I use it. And it’s got the electromagnetic field, the magnetic field and the RF field. If I put it against my phone, when my phone is on but not charging I will get some pretty sizeable numbers. You plug the phone in and it goes off the charts. I put it on my laptop when my laptop is running off of battery, it doesn’t like it, it’s on there, but when you plug it in, it goes off the chart. Why? Well, a wave has two attributes, how much energy is has and what frequency it’s at, and I’ll explain both of those in a second. But when it’s running off of its battery, the energy that it has is only what’s possessed in the battery, that’s the only energy it can give you, the energy it possesses, it cannot give what it does not possess, right? When I plug it in, it has an unlimited amount of energy, if you will, coming over the grid.”

 

Michelle: “That’s why it’s so hot too.”

 

B.D.: “That’s why it’s so hot! Do not engage your devices when they are plugged in! When you get low, go plug in your device, take your butt outside and ground. Take yourself outside, take off your shoes, heck, lay in the grass, hug a tree, recharge you for a minute and then go back, unplug your device, your phone or whatever it is, and engage. Don’t have it by your bed, don’t have it by your bed plugged in! I know so many people that at night they put their phone by their bed, ‘well I need it, it’s my alarm clock!’, well let’s all pitch in and get you an alarm clock that’s on a DC battery for god’s sake, for nine dollars, let’s all chip in, right? Turn your devices off, turn off the Wi-Fi at night. So 90% of the things that you and I can teach people is it’s free and it’s common sense. You and I are not here to sell crap, we’re not here to scare people, we’re here to inform people and most of the stuff that’s really impactful is free! Number one, know what the culprits are and use them sparingly! Use them intentionally, yeah! And keep them out of your space! So a wave has two attributes, a wave has energy, how hard is it hitting you, that’s number one, and number two how frequently it will hit you. Here’s some easy examples, so you and I are sitting at the lake and a ski boat goes by, well what happens? It creates a wave and that wave is about a foot high, that’s how much energy it has, and it hits every couple seconds, it’s quite soothing, I can sleep on the beach like a baby. Now I’ve also lived on Oahu, and on the North Shore that wave, man, it seems like it sucks out a block, it’s as tall as a skyscraper, it has massive energy, right? And it crashes, but it doesn’t crash that frequently. So energy is how much power the wave has, that’s number one, and number two, how many times does it hit the beach? Okay, those are your two things. Okay, now the energy will disperse over time, so the closer you are to it, the more energy you’re absorbing, that’s number one, so having your laptop on your person, having it on your lap, having your phone next to your head, no no, create some space. And number two, how long was that wave hitting you? An AM radio wave from tip to trough is a block long so it’s not hitting you that much. Now an FM radio wave is about six feet, it’s hitting you about eight times as fast. Most of our technology though, 4G, 5G, these are millimeter waves.”

 

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much, they love you so much that they want you to download your movie faster, maybe! Maybe, maybe something else, right? Maybe something else. And so if you remember, I’m old, but I remember being in the car and in town you had FM, you got out of town driving to Lincoln, Nebraska out in the middle of a corn field, you had AM. Because the smaller the wave is, the more easily it’s disrupted. So if we’re down to a millimeter wave, now you’ve got to be close to that tower. So two things, that’s more damaging to the biological and the tower has to be closer. So now the towers are coming right into our schools, they’re coming right into our neighborhoods, people say they don’t sleep. Who sleeps?! I know people who haven’t slept good in years, it’s not just a matter of are you getting that good, peaceful, restful, deep REM sleep? No! You want to know why? You’re putting your head right by the wall! Now what’s in the wall? Your wiring! Well, where do all of these signals land? They land on antennas, right? Well if you have this much antenna, two feet of copper or aluminum antenna on your car and it’s getting FM and it’s getting AM, the copper wiring in your house is a super antenna and it’s not just getting AM and FM, it’s getting 4G, 5G, LTE, DISH Network, DirectTV, his 4G, their Wi-Fi, that printer, the FBI van, you’re getting it all! And they’re landing on antennas, and here’s what we’re doing in all of our wisdom, we’re laying our head right by the wall. Where we’re right inside these fields, they have more energy, and we’re not moving. So now let’s pretend, remember that wave is going to hit us and it’s going to hit us how many times. Well, if I’m just hitting your arm, it would hurt maybe but if I hit it in the same place over and over and over, after a while you’d go okay take it easy. Now if I move it around, well that’s a massage, now that feels nice, I’m charging you 20 bucks an hour, you’re getting a massage. But if you do it in the same place it builds up, that’s when you get cellular damage. So when you lay down, two things, one you’re putting your head into that two foot zone and you’re not moving it.”

 

Michelle: “Unless you test. I mean, unless you test and unless you filter. And also if you have a metal bed that’s a conduit too, and the springs in your mattress. There’s things you can do to harmonize that with a wood frame and natural latex mattress and pillows and whatnot. But I want to know like how do your filters work? Obviously we want to test, test to see what the levels are first with the meters, and then understanding if we have any inside wiring errors or anything with our appliances or whatnot going on, and then how to fix them without hiring an electrician to completely rewire our stuff.”

 

B.D.: “Love it. So let’s start fixing! So number one, you do need a meter, and yeah they’re 150-200 dollars, I’m sorry, life is hard, but the nice thing about the meter is that it’s one and done. It’s not like vitamins, it’s one and done. Buy the meter and you’re going to identify two things, three things really, number one, what levels do you have and where they’re coming from. You can turn things on and off and watch this rascal go up and down. I play the game all the time! I put it on in a room, turn things on and off and you’re going to see two things, number one what’s your limit, what’s your number and what things are causing it, so at least you can turn those things off or use them sparingly. And this is a corded meter so this gives you a really macro-view too because all of those signals that are landing on it and it’s acting as an antenna, you’re going to get all of them. So this is a corded meter, it plugs in, and it works in harmony with a corded or plug-in filter. What this filter will do is dynamically remove all of the dirty electricity, 98-99% from that electrical system. So when you have a meter and you’ve got some levels, turn some things off, plug in a filter, you will get your numbers way down instantly so that you can put your head where you want it to be, that’s part of it!”

 

Michelle: “So I have a question. So I’ve heard that you don’t want to put those filters too close to your person, that if you’ve got plugs around, and obviously in older homes like our home there’s three different rooms on one circuit, you know what I mean? And so you want to be able to put the filter in an area where it’s going to be affecting it positively but then not having it too close to your person. Is that correct or does that matter?”

 

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well, how do you measure it?”

 

B.D.: “It saturates out like a sponge. And so it absorbs all of the chaotic dirty electricity out of wave, out of frequency, and harmonizes it back in to just two primary waves, volts and amps, and perfect 60 Hertz, one primary frequency. It comes in, saturates out, and out it comes. I kind of describe it as a Britta filter, you know? As kids we all drank out of the hose and nowadays you wouldn’t drink out of a puddle, right? But that’s what it does. It takes all of this chaos, all of this noise, interference, distortion, harmonics, anything that’s not primary, and then out it goes. You should only have two waves, volts and amps. And Satic is the only filter on the line that I know of that affects both waves. Most only treat the voltage, or the amperage, the current wave, pardon me, because that’s where most of it lives is on the current wave. We also filter the voltage wave. And most of the dirty electricity will land on neutral, and here’s a good example for that, so when I was a kid my mom would vacuum, and when she would vacuum it would put lines in Gilligan’s Island, right? You could hear your sister’s blow dryer on your radio! Don’t say you can’t, you can! And so what happens is the clean electricity comes out of the wall on what’s called a phase, which, when you’re looking at an outlet, when you’re looking at a plug, oftentimes there’s a small plug and a big one, right? There’s a small blade and a big blade, okay, the small blade is the power coming out of the wall into that device, then its degraded by the use of that device, creates a lot of harmonics and distortion, and on the big blade is common or the neutral, and that common is how it got my TV clear across the room. Mom didn’t crawl behind the TV is plug in the vacuum, she did it where she had lots of room and lots of chord space, right? Because you don’t want to re-plug. So you need an in-line filter that can remove it from the voltage wave and the amperage wave and you want it to both affect the phase and the common for those reasons I just told you right there, and you don’t want too many. The best way to get there, really, is to turn things off, identify your culprits. You can check for wiring errors just by removing the cover of your outlet, don’t stick anything in it, it just has the one little flathead screw in it, you can pull it out with a butter knife, pull it open, use a little light, and in our guide, it’s free, shows you the eight possible combinations that that can be wired, and four of them it still works, but how it really should be.”

 

Michelle: “Unplug them! I tell people all the time! I would love that guide to download, that would be amazing.”

 

B.D.: “Yeah! We’ve got it for download, please on that page wiring errors, you know, you can identify it in a heartbeat, and if you’ve got reversed neutral or ground or bond to neutral on ground, filters can actually exacerbate it.”

 

Michelle: “I’d love to do a really cool thing, we talked about this for a while, but just do a walk-through of my place with your equipment and see what we can do because I want real-world applications because I know, like, I mean, every house has something, and no house is perfect, but we can definitely learn how to fix things and I’d love to do that with you. So tell me some of the applications where people need to filter dirty electricity, obviously we talk about outside wiring errors not wired correctly, talk to us more about that.”

 

B.D.: “At the panel oftentimes, depending on what code is, they’ll mix up or bond the neutral bar and the ground bar and on the main panel they’re bonded but they should still be green and copper on green and white on white, and on subpanels they should be different, and you can just pull the cover off and look, don’t touch anything, but you can look, and if you can see it you can go ‘okay that’s an issue’. Also, one of the main culprits, number one main culprit, I’m sorry, is the new smart meter. The new digital smart meter, it has two ways, number one it’s a cell tower on the side of your house and for that you need a piece of FieldShield, and it puts the dirty electricity from your electrical system, so if you can get the old analog meter, that’s the way to play. And every utility has an opt-out option, and you need to opt out, you need to have the analog Edison meter.”

 

Michelle: “They don’t, we have opted out of both gas and electric meters but they don’t do analog meters anymore, they’re still digital, but there is no radiofrequency signals.”

 

B.D.: “No connectivity, no digital connectivity. That’s great, number one. The number two culprit is solar energy. And I grew up in a solar household, my family manufactured solar panels in the 70s and 80s in Montana, I’m the number one solar dealer in Western Montana, I never meant to be the whistleblower, I never meant to disrupt the industry, there are so many families that when they get solar they suffer like my child did. They’re not sleeping, they’re not eating, they’ve got disease, and if we know it kills bugs on windshield, we’ve already discussed this, what about your biome? What about your gut man? And we’re all learning right now that that subsystem in our body is one of the most important aspects of health, gut, biome and parasites, and these are all affected by it, right? And again, it’s beyond intelligent debate. So don’t be afraid, get empowered, get brave! Take your power back, know what’s what. And so we don’t want to connectivity of the smart meter, number one, number two if we’re going to go solar get yourself a wire-in in-line filter mounted with the solar, and then where your smart meter is, if it’s on the inside of the home opposite the smart meter, a piece of FieldShield. And with a meter it goes to zero. You will see on this meter, which I do not make, the number go to zero. So that’s all you really have to do, number one know your culprits, don’t have your smart meter connected, if you’re going to have solar everyone should just get an in-line filter anyways, wire-in or plug-in, and then opposite of your smart meter, FieldShield! It’s two feet by four feet, you just hang it on the opposite side and it works for the whole house because radiation doesn’t turn corners, it can’t bend back around, you have sealed your house off. Sometimes if there’s a big cell tower like right behind my screen that you can’t see, I’ve got a huge piece of this. You want to know why? There’s a 5G tower right there and there’s nothing I can do, I can see it, I stare at it all day and I know it’s frying me, I take my numbers and they’re off the chart, I put a piece of FieldShield right there and I can physically feel it. Now is it psycho-sematic? Maybe. Psycho-sematic is real! Psychosoma is real, I know that’s true, but meters don’t lie. Now I’m reasonably intelligent and I can realize that all of these things put together are not terribly expensive number one, and number two your power bill goes down a little bit, and number three it’s one and done. Like the gym is forever, healthy food is forever, organic is forever, non-GMO’s forever, vitamins are forever, filtering is not. One time. You’re done.”

 

Michelle: “What do you recommend for tenants? My son is moving to a place and on the back of where he’s going to be sleeping, like in the corner over here, but in the corner is where the electricity comes in down and the electrical panel and smart meter are down below. Would you recommend getting the panels to protect that?”

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we’ve got the unit for the solar, you have other units that you sell, you have the filters, you have the plug-in filters, you’ve got the meter, and then you have the FieldShield, is there anything else?”

 

B.D.: “We also make lighting. So the next culprits are things that are direct current. So we live in a world of alternating current, and anything with a battery is direct current, so your phone, your laptop, your iPad, your LEDs, these are all direct current. Well, what does that mean? Alternating current alternates it as a sinewave, up and down, in and out, it alternates. Direct current moves one way. So, the way you have to have your special little cord for your phone, the special cord for your laptop, you have to have the little cord, well why? Because it lets the electric guy in and then it shuts the door behind him because alternating current wants to go in and out. So it goes in, it shuts the door behind him, it goes in and it shuts the door behind him. So that clipping, that strobing creates by definition dirty electricity. LEDs is the new thing, incandescence is the best. Incandescent is the best. But if you can’t get incandescent, and that’s the lightbulb that 120 years old that we all grew up with, it has a little filament and those actually clean electricity. They are actually a little filter believe it or not and they took those away and they gave us the compact fluorescent lamp for a while but nobody liked those, and now we have the LED. Our LEDs do not create any electromagnetic field, they have no distortion, they’re a couple dollars more, you know, they’re five or six dollars more but they last for years! They last for years, they’re guaranteed for three, if it burns out or fails we will send you a new one.”

 

Michelle: “Mercury? There’s no mercury in it. And are they flicker free?”

 

B.D.: “Flicker free.”

 

Michelle: “What about full spectrum vs.?”

 

B.D.: “Yes! So we have the 2700 color which is warm which is what a lot of us like for a living room, and we’ve got the four and 5,000K if you want to see true colors, do art, maybe match clothes in closets and stuff like that, if you’re going to match ties and socks as a gentleman you need some full spectrum light because in the warm light your burgundy’s turn brown. So we do offer both. But then in the living room I think we all want a little bit rosier, a little bit, some more gentleness.”

 

Michelle: “Yeah, I mean, I do amber lighting in the evenings when we turn off the lights. I have dedicated, I’m like the kind-of old school designer where I’m not, we don’t have Wi-Fi, everything is wired, we do have cell phones but we don’t turn Wi-Fi and Bluetooth on, we have a cable modem and whatnot, and so it’s living in a modern world and trying to be conscious and aware of, my cats always join me on Zoom, it’s the matrix..”

 

B.D.: “They know! Mine loves to get right on my laptop. I won’t see her for an hour and then once I get my laptop out and then she wanted to stand on it.”

 

Michelle: “I know! You said that the bugs are dispersing away, and the cows won’t go near it, but cats? If you have cats everybody who’s listening, cats are a magnetic for magnetic fields and electric fields, they love, how many times have you been to a book store and you see the cat literally sleeping right by the computer or the laptop? And that is leukemia in cats people, like, don’t let your cat or dog sleep next to, you know, devices and things like that. So check your areas where your pets are sleeping. This has been super enlightening, I’m so excited, I’m so excited to get some of these products from you, and like I’ve said if you’re getting solar, and I’m a little wigged out, I pushed it out because, you know, wanting to find out more information from you about how we can truly reduce our dirty electricity because it’s golden now, we have no dirty electricity in our place, we have definitely worked to harmonize it, we’re very conscious of it so we want to keep it that way, right?”

 

B.D.: “This is an opportunity for us to do a really great study. So first of all, let me get you some of our products and I really want you to use our meter, and before you’ve gone solar, be thoughtful. We have a clipboard, so when you get one of our meters and one of our units, you also get a clipboard and a sheet and it identifies all of our outlets, it asks you to do them with filter and without and three times a day because morning, afternoon and night are very different load signatures, let’s do that in your house before the solar, and then when you get solar, let’s, so we can really show everybody, show your audience and fellow human beings what it’s really doing, no melarchy. Then, let’s go ahead and use the filtering system and ideally have numbers lower even with solar than before, I think that would be a fun test to do, I think that would be a great before and after.”

 

Michelle: “I’m so down for it, yeah! This is, I wanted to, back in 2009, do a documentary where I was going to gut my entire home and make it a healthy environment by having people like you, I wish I’d known you back then, I didn’t end up doing the documentary because of the timing of the economy and whatnot and it was kind of not the best timing, but I wanted to do that, I wanted to showcase these wonderful solutions and products and companies that they come in and they really have the best solutions to be able to help people live in harmony without exposing themselves to things that are unwanted, unseen, unheard, invisible and that’s something that doctors can’t connect on why their health is tanking. So now is the time, I’ve also got some exciting projects coming up that is going to be a really wonderful platform to get the education out there, to let people know and to start using your products so they can really enjoy this, enjoy their homes, and for their health to be able to thrive.”

 

B.D.: “That’s going to be great content that I think will be great to watch and it’s going to be entertaining and people need it. So what we want to do for all of the listeners we want to do a special offer, right? Anybody that goes to the store we want to give a special code to the listeners, anybody that responds, anyone who wants to go online, if you want to call our offices, I’m going to be boastful for a second, and I know that boastful is not attractive, in fact when we boast it’s oftentimes wanting to make ourselves look better, and in actuality it does the opposite, yet I am so proud of my team, the people that answer the phone, one of them will probably be my son who’s worked for me since university, he knows more about the subject matter then anybody because it’s first hand to him, it’s second hand to me. I think you spoke to my father, right, who was a solar guy in the 70s, he’s a wealth of knowledge, and then just my design and engineering team is amazing as well. You don’t have to just go online and buy something if you’re not sure, you don’t have to be doubtful, you know, you can talk to somebody with a heart and ears who will hear you and share your story, we will get you what we need. If they don’t work, we’ll troubleshoot it, we’ll refund your money happily because we want you well. And anybody that buys after this show, you know, let them know that the customer care team of the code that we’re going to share, you’ll get 15% off of the store at checkout and free shipping.”

 

Michelle: “Yeah, I’ve already got a coupon code with you guys already, it’s just ‘DesignWell15’”

 

B.D.: “Lovely! Well, use the code you guys, use the code, save your 15%, and then shipping on this stuff is usually 50 or 60 dollars, that’s a gift, take advantage of it.”

 

Michelle: “That’s wonderful. I was just going to say I appreciate you so much and what I do as a business owner, I have for many years, is I take a very curative approach and I build relationships with my manufacturers and companies because I want you to know who I am, I want to know who you are, if I’m going to be recommending your products and solutions to my clients who I care and love, and my family, and be able to speak to them and use them for my own family and my places, you know, that’s what I do, I really take the time to develop these relationships, so I really appreciate it, it’s been great getting to know you and getting to know what your company is all about and I thank you for all of the hard work that you have done to help people have the ability to have homes that are more supportive and the knowledge about how to do that. So, thank you so much for everything that you do.”

 

B.D.: “No, that’s very gracious, thank you. We’re all sticking together these days and as our eyes are continuously opened, as we see things that we thought were good are now bad or vice versa, we just have to stick together and share what we know and then help each other be as happy and be as healthy as we can be, especially in this electrified world.”

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