Andra McHugh: “Maybe you’re already invested in something, you know, like maybe a cell phone sticker or some entry level thing, how can you tell, I mean with anything, how can you tell if a product is legit?”

 

B.D. Erickson: “That’s a great question! Let’s kind of defrag that a little bit and chunk it up a little bit with when you’re going to use your smart phone don’t put it by your face, for heavens sake, keep it off of your body, don’t try to have it in your hand for too long, rest it on something if you can, don’t use it or operate while it’s plugged in, just don’t. The field, like right now this field is based on the power of the battery and when you’re plugging it in you’re almost plugging it in to an unlimited source of power and you’re just going to multiply that field many times. So let me just describe a field to you a way that most people can get it. A field has two major attributes: Intensity and Frequency. Well, what’s that mean? Okay, so I’m going to hit my hand, well I can hit it lightly or I can punch it, that’s the intensity, how hard is the field hitting? What’s the energy in that field? That’s number one. Number two is frequency. Well what’s frequency? It's how frequently it hits. So I think about sitting on the beach on Flathead Lake growing up as a youth and the waves crash and I love sleeping in the boathouse because the waves hit the break water, it’s my favorite sound on the whole planet. Well I’ve also lived in Hawaii where that wave now pulls out it seems like it’s going to go a block and then this big wave comes in and crescendos. So that big wave has more amplitude, it’s got more energy, but a slower frequency. That smaller wave has less energy but more to frequency. Okay, so let’s say I’m punching you, well how hard I punch you decides if it’s going to hurt or not, right? But if I punch you in the same spot on the shoulder for a while you’re going to go ‘Ow!’ because you’ve been hit so many times. But if you’re moving around and I’m doing it all over your back, that’s a massage, that’s delightful, I’m charging your 45 an hour for it, right? It can either hurt or be wonderful! So we have to worry about two things, the energy or the amplitude or magnitude of the field, number one, is strength, how hard it’s hitting us, and number two how many times it’s hitting us. Okay, so fields usually dissipate over a space, magnetic fields especially, electric fields over space. So here's a simple meter, it’s called a TriField meter, it measures an electric fields, a magnetic field and an RF field. It’s always higher by the device, by the phone it’s higher, by the electrical wall it's higher, right? So number one when you are still and you’re close the wave is hitting you harder, it’s hitting you harder, and when I’m not moving, sleeping or working at my desk, it’s hitting me in the same place. Now we’ve got cell damage. Now it’s going to affect the biological. Now when you’re moving, it’s almost not that bad for you because I’m going to and away and from its intensity and it’s hitting me in different spots. It’s when I’m really close to it, Andra, and now I’m getting fried. So, what’s frying me? Things that send and receive a signal and run on electricity. So yes, all of it. TV absolutely, laptop, tablet, phones absolutely, smart meters are the worst ones because it’s dealing with so much power, literally all of the power moving through your house is moving through the smart meter, it has to, that’s how it works, so the intensity of that thing is huge. Okay, so how can you tell if some of these little devices are working or not? Yes, I have a sticker on my phone, is it working? I have no idea. We love it when we can put something on a bench, on a meter, on an oscilloscope, we can do the electromagnetic interference, the electromagnetic field, it’s intensity and it’s frequency, you can read it and measure it, you can feel it oftentimes. Some of these products I can’t see a different, unfortunately. I still use it, it was nine dollars, I don’t care, do I think it works? I sure hope it does! Can I testify before a subcommittee and testify on the stand? I can’t because I can’t seem to replicate it on a meter, but I really like stuff that you can see and touch and see on a meter, that’s just me, but that’s my modality. Right? I’m very visual, and so that doesn’t make me a bad person, that’s just how I get my information, that’s what builds credibility for me.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

to you and they’re sure passionate about it, but you’re not there yet. So you love them but are they drinking their own koolaid? Are they too close to it? Or are they just wrong? We’ve all been wrong! That’s just part of being a human being. But then you hear it from somebody else and then you’re like ‘I’ve heard that before’ and it starts to, that’s called social proof that the more people you hear it from. For me, I’m a big meter guy, I want to see it, I want to see it, I’m very visual and I’m male biology and I’m an engineering mind and a tech and I want to see it on a meter! So now you see it and now it becomes true. So you can’t just get somebody to believe wholeheartedly probably on the first exposure to it. Around the first exposure to it, you’re introducing a new idea, you’re introducing a new concept on this journey, and then what you have to do is that you have to build that social proof and build the mechanical proof or whatever that personality type needs or what their modality is, are they visual, auditory or kinesthetic? What’s their love language? Right? We all receive information differently so we want to see it, we want to read it, you have to give it to them, and then ultimately they will own it. And I really love the skeptic, I love the debunker, I love the skeptic because while they’re an exhausting pain in the toushee in the beginning, once you get them, they’re a zealot, they’re a disciple because they have tried to attack it from every angle that they possibly could, they’ve said that you’re wearing a foil hat, it’s vaporware, it’s pseudoscience, I’ve heard it all, but once they get it then you own them at a lot deeper of a level. I’m an early adopter, I’m a pretty easy sale, I believe people, I love people, I think people for the most part are good and want to tell the truth, they’re imperfect but I love them, so I’m a pretty easy sale. So I can sometimes be an easy sale because I’ve fully bought in at that level because I didn’t require it. With the people that say no no no, once you prove them, and I’m being repetitive again forgive me, you can’t get them off of it because they own it for themselves. Your husband is probably like me in that he’s in the middle and then you’ve got people like our parents that sometimes are just so hard and so stuck in the mud, but once we get them come on over and join the bandwagon, tell them there’s plenty of room!”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

create massive amounts of electromagnetic fields and electromagnetic interference, harmonics and distortion, I’m sorry, it’s true. It’s true it’s bad for the biological. Number two, we have to put a smart meter on because now we want as a part of this project, I mean if you’re totally off grid you wouldn’t, we’re not talking about off grid we’re talking about the average American on grid home that’s getting solar simply to supplement their energy and reduce their power bill, we have to get a smart meter because it’s a net meter. So in the summertime we’re going to overproduce, right? We’re going to spin that meter back, and then in the winter where there’s shorter days and snow on our panels, I live in Montana, and then you can get some of your watts that you invested in the summer by overproducing, you can get those back. Okay, those are terrible for dirty electricity! What happened is that we’ve got a freaking cell tower on the side of our house! We didn’t think about it! And 10 years ago, we didn’t know that this crap was bad for us! I didn’t either! Right? So now you’ve got a cell tower on your house, you don’t want that! So that’s okay, we know what to do. So we put a PowerPerfect Energy Management System, a whole home filter, right on the same panel as the inverter, and now on a good dirty electricity meter, the electricity flowing through the home after and with solar is cleaner then it ever was before, it’s pure utility grade, that’s number one. Number two, we put shielding, SaticShield, we put shielding, and this seems simple but it’s not, it’s eight layers, this is highly expensive, hard to make, well-engineered product, on the opposite side of the smart meter inside the house. Radiation doesn’t turn corners, it can’t wrap around it, so if you block it this way it can only go to infinity on this side, that way it can’t come into your house. And we will have electric field readings, magnetic field readings, dirty electricity and interference readings that are lower with solar then they when you were just on the grid before. That adds about three thousand dollars to the package, but when you advertise that over a 15 or 20 year solar

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When I think about a shield I think about a combatant and the 300 Spartans of Thermopoly or whatever put up their shields and then an axe or a blade or a spear is going to bounce off of it, right? That’s not how this works. Imagine more like catching a softball in a mitt, this catches it, it grabs it, it has to be plugged in, it’s got to be grounded. It’s got to be grounded and it takes it all to ground. So, it’s a grounding matt for your bed. I’m telling you right now I’m not being a sales guy, you will sleep better then you’ve ever slept because you’re going to sleep like you’re camping. You’re going to go from absolutely being fried in your bed, and I know I’m being dramatic but it’s true, you know, if you’ve got a smart meter and solar and your head is right by the wall, you didn’t turn the electricity off to your house, no you didn’t, your head is right by it, and your phone is on and your Wi-Fi and your smart meter and the neighbor’s smart meter and your neighbor’s smart meter and Wi-Fi. Turn on your phone and you’ll see 50! This printer and that printer and their Wi-Fi and then FBI van and you’ll see 100 networks out there, right? And if they’re hitting your phone they’re passing through you. So that’s something else we can do, I mean we could teach you how to make them because you’ve got to stop it and you’ve got to get one in your little kids’ bed, you’ve got to get one on the wall of your smart meter, slide one in your little kids’ bed and then plug in a couple of SATIC units, and there’s other manufacturers that make them too, and then you’re set! You did it! That’s one thing you can check off your flipping list of things that are bad for us in our natural environment that are damaging our biological and hurting our families, you can check it off the list!”

 

Andra: “A quick list! Go back through it! Just an exhausted parent’s guide to reducing their child’s EMF exposure.”

 

B.D.: “So the first thing we’ve got to do is we have to realize what a field is and its properties, right? So don’t be too close to what it is. Remember when you were a little kid and mom said don’t sit too close to the TV? She knew! Mama Bear instinct knew that you sitting too close to that TV is not good for you. Well guess what? She was right! So you don't want

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

send and receive a signal, we want to limit our exposure to them, we want to limit our time, how close we are to them, and we don’t ever want to mess with them when they’re plugged in. So you have to charge your phone, you sure do, so put it in the kitchen or the living room or somewhere away from your person and plug it in and keep people away from it for the hour or two that it takes to charge and then unplug it and use it well while it’s not plugged in. Turning things off, is it inconvenient? I mean we have 6,00 years of recoded human history where we didn’t have any of it and now we pretend that we can’t live five seconds without it, and then truth is when you turn it off and start living without it, it’s going to improve your life in nearly every aspect. You’re going to be unplugged, you’re going to be away from the bluelight, you’re going to be away from the positive and negative comments that are coming in over and the whole social media gambit, and you’re going to be away from the radiation coming in from these darn fields. Following this advice follows you and benefits you in nearly every conceivable way because of the reasons we just mentioned, it’s just not good for the mind, body or soul. It’s not.”

 

Andra: “Yeah! I mean all I can say is Word because I try and say these things and I do my best in the world that we are and it’s a real uphill battle, and I’m just so thankful that there’s people like you trudging along with me and all my listeners too, we’re just doing our best. Tell me, what is the difference, I mean you hear these words, I know they’re not interchangeable, but dirty electricity versus EMF, tell us the difference of those two things.”

 

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frequency, right? You get some of those positively charged ions that they went outside and picked up for you and brought them back to you. Isn't that beautiful?!" 

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Andra: “Aw, I’ll start carrying our dogs a little more! I feel bad because with our four kids, they’re at the bottom of the totem pole!”

 

B.D.: “Right?! You know, people are convalescing. People are in their bed, they can’t get outside, they can’t get grounded. It’s well proven that bringing them a pet is so good for them! Emotionally, spiritually, and a lof of it, people don’t know, is because they’re bringing in that frequency, they’re bringing in those Schumann ions from walking in nature and from walking around barefoot, and they bring it to you and they interchange it, there’s a true interchange of energy, it’s brilliant.”

 

Andra: “Wow, that’s lovely.”

 

B.D.: “And the EMFs that are bad for you, there are certain frequencies that are worse for you too, worse for the biological. Okay, so when we talked about frequency, frequency is how often that waves crashes because fields travel in a big wave, so the top of the wave to the bottom of the wave and it crests at the top, every time it crests, how many times in a minute? That’s its frequency. Well, AM radio is not bad for you! It’s not bad for you because the top of the wave to the bottom of the wave is like a city block! It’s huge! So that wave is not hitting you very many times in a second. FM, FM is about five or six feet. So now FM radio is hitting you more times, FM radio, it’s like when I was a kid you got FM stereo in town but out on the highway you’d only get AM. Why? Because that field is shorter or the wave is shorter so it’s easier to block. Well now we went to 4G, now we’re at 5G, that’s a millimeter wave, it is a microwave oven, period, beyond contestation, undeniable, bad for your health, microwave oven. So because that wave is so small it’s easily disrupted because they have the towers everywhere. So they’re moving the towers closer and closer to homes and it’s just getting us, it’s bombarding us. And again, that is just unfortunately something that a majority of us can’t control. You can’t up and move to the country tomorrow, you’d love to! You’d love to go get an off-grid place and you can’t, it’s not practical and it’s not in your means. So what do you do? First of all identify it, and then second of all start to do some of these techniques to lower your exposure, and I’m being repetitive, the number one thing to lower your exposure is the stuff that you control and it’s the stuff that you’re touching because it’s most close to you. And the most dangerous stuff in your house is actually you and you’re causing it with our lifestyles that we’re all guilty of.”

 

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Andra: “Well, that’s all good news! I was just trying to save some brain cells and yay! I really appreciate you and your company and what you’ve set out to do. Once we get past those free immediate things, the things you start doing tonight, when we go and start to invest at SATIC, what do we do first?”

 

B.D.: “You got it. Great. So one of the first things I would have everybody do is go to YouTube, our channel is still up, and watch our channel, and our channel is Satic, S-A-T-I-C Shield, and that’s our channel and watch our videos, and I’ve done a couple of cartoons, we’ve got a two and a half minute cartoon, we’ve got a seven minute cartoon that tries to explain some of this stuff that I’ve just described in how it works and free things that you can do in your home. Then, you know, do everything in the home that we just talked about that’s within your control. And then after that you might have to add some filters. We have filters that are either plug-in or wire-in if you’re moving or renting or whatever else, plug-ins are fine. And one of the fun things about a plug-in too is it’s really easy to see if working and you can put it wherever you want. I would suggest you get a meter and one of our best-selling kits is one of our meters and two plug-ins units or four plug-in units and in the instructions, it shows you exactly how to conduct the test. It comes with a clipboard and a reading chart and what you should be seeing and what happens if you’re not seeing that, it’s kind of a fun game and you’ll go through your house and you’ll record the readings on several of your outlets, all of them if you have the time, just do it, and then find your hot spots and plug your meter in and you’ll watch it come down on the whole house, and then if you have a smart meter, if you’ve got solar or something, then you’ll need at least one piece of FieldShield. And that one piece of FieldShield is going to go by your smart meter, it’s going to go on the opposite wall. And then, you know, if you’ve got the dough or the time, either buy a piece of FieldShield for the bed or make one. And yes on our website we teach you how to make them, it’s not that hard. With some manpower and some focus and some ingenuity, it might not be as good as ours because ours is an eight-layer dip designed by engineers, but it will still work. It will still greatly reduce it. And like we’ve been talking about, this is not like stepping into a propeller, this is something like eating something, it’s more cumulative, so if you can reduce it by 80%, that’s a win man! You don’t need to put money in my store! I’m blessed! Anything you can do for free, I will help you, I will teach you, I will guide you through it, we’ve got the best customer care on the planet, like the thing that I’m most proud about in our whole company is culture, that we’re driven to protect, we’re driven by love, we’re driven by faith, and if you serve enough people, you’ll get your needs met too, you will. You will. If you have people get what they want, you’ll get what you want and they’ll be enough for you. I’m also not money-motivated, I’m love and connection based and I know that money doesn’t buy happiness. If you have all the money in the world and your child is sick, it sucks. If you have all of the money in the world and you don’t feel loved or connected or appreciated, your life sucks! You know, to heck with that, right? I want to loved and appreciated way more then I want to have some dough in the bank, right?”

 

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staff that are going to love you up and give you the best coaching that they can. It’s amazing because more often the female biology feels it first. Little kids and women feel it way before most of the fellas, right? In fact, with our plug-in unit, what a lot of our techs do in the field when they’re with families is have families sit in the living room, get the family calm, have them relax, and then with the family’s eyes closed not looking or backs to them, will plug the unit in or unplug it and play the game on who can feel it. And you can feel it, I’m talking thousands. We’ve been here for 14 years, we have over 100,000 installed, you can feel it, and people who can feel it can do it 100 times, they can plug it in and unplug it, they can feel it. I can’t, darn it, it’s my own company and I’m not one of the ones that can feel it, I just can’t. They describe it as calmer, quieter, are the two most common descriptors on how it feels. So anyways, we give you a full 30 days of that, and if you’re not 100% in getting the feeling, the experience, the value, you can send it back for 100% money-back guarantee, there will be no argument from our staff. All our staff will feel is the measure of heartbreak because we weren’t able to help save you. It will not be about a couple hundred dollars with our company, I guarantee you, you don’t need something that isn’t benefitting you, you wouldn’t pay for it and we wouldn’t let you. We want you to feel it, we want your life to be proved, that is the vision and mission of us coming to work every day is improving the lives of fellow human beings, and we started with our own families.”